if Jesus is the only answer......

what then is the question?

john15:12

"salvation is nothing but love conquering and entering into us. We have just as much of salvation as we have of love. Full salvation is perfect love. ...

See tt u obey this commandment. (john15:12)...

Let your life and conduct be the sacrifice of love - give yourself up to think of their sins or their needs. Intercede for them, help and serve them (ie fellow believers )
The life Christ lives in you is love; let the life in which you live it out be all love. ...

Is it all possible to thus live and love? My answer is: Christ commands it; you must obey. Christ means it; you must obey, or you cannot abide in His love."
~andrew murray on john 15:12, "the true vine"

Awesome stuff la...
Man it's tough to type this on my phone during duty rest.....

communal love?

are my notions of phileo love so abstract no one understands?
i probably am wrong when such a thing happens.

in genuine crises, artificial harmony will fade.

learning to love in a community requires effort and lots of dying of self.
all of them all.
brokenness needs to be done.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

so can there be such thing as peer lead?
thru loving those u lead lor.

ohwell.
taxing day.

byes

"serve with the heart of a king, rule with the heart of a servant." [another random post]

got this quote from a certain significant someone who got it from a certain significant figure in the judiciary who is also a significant figure in the worship ministry :)

i have no idea and no depth of what it actually means nor concur with it. yet.
one day i will i guess.

recently i have been hearing about men (including the one mentioned above) who are leaders, ministry leaders, and ppl who have that heart factor praying that we come to the point of helplessness. so we can go on our knees.
will that time come sooner or later?
will that time force me to go on my knees?
or just go on my fees.

can there be such a thing as forgetting HOW to pray?
or is it juz a hardening of the heart factor and a choice not to be disciplined in the things which once enthralled our young junior faith.

things are only beginning.
the very things that inspired, like student ministry, is beginning to look daunting.
life issues are at the worse, and friendships have never been so strained.
do we sacrifice friendships that were built over so long over differences in leadership style?
i am sorry brother. it is an unfortunate turn of events, and a pitiful way things are unfolding after 9years.

i am sorry.

with all the forces of life pulling with one kind of relationship pulling over another kind. staying firm in brotherhood becomes a chore.
maybe leaders see differently. seeing how two certain cgls and their acgls becoming so jaded with all the indefinite changes and neverending transitions.

man. its saddening stuff man.
and the contrast is especially greater when i grew in a ministry that has challenged my view of christian ministry itself.
in fact if you look at Christ in the bible hor, the way He does stuff, it is really a kind of thing which challenges worldviews.

and i guess that is what we should live and love as. to challenge ourselves and those close to us and those in our influence. to challenge existing worldviews that may not be the fullest.

and herein comes another question. what if i cant lead as those who inspired and mentored me? i realise some of my greatest mentors aren't those who sit down with me and do a million page bs, but those whose lives are the million pages if the lifelong bs they had done and then lived out.

and that is true belief.
"Believe comes with courage, courage comes with passion, passion comes with conviction and conviction comes with a relationship." ~fuji

hope to come to that point where it becomes real..

it is discouraging to see more and more of my friends i grew up in youth, who lead bs and lead worship now leading a life that is aimless and confused of the gospel. man. why should i be surprised? even those who once had theo studies are now more concerned about fame or holidays.

do we need 20 years to turn nominal?
no it juz happens in an instant. it happens in the instant when we have chosen the way that is not The way.

so i guess lets not look at this person or that, and see that his "youthful passion sure will bring him far", or go like "wah that girl staffworker so solid one". you'll never know. the most ok one can be the most distant one.

so is it a duty when u see a brother and/or sister who seems to be fine, but something tells u some Something is eroding away. that zest, that love, that heart factor is losing it. so is it our duty if your good friend is headed for a life that is more concerned with enjoying rather than giving?
i would want my friends to do so when the day comes for me when i forget my Lord. i would want my friends to press on and perservere in the day when i refuse to hear, refuse to step out of my double lifestyle or a lipservice devo.
will i be that friend?

walk with Jesus daily.
God help us to.

"serve with the heart of a king, rule with the heart of a servant." [another random post]

got this quote from a certain significant someone who got it from a certain significant figure in the judiciary who is also a significant figure in the worship ministry :)

i have no idea and no depth of what it actually means nor concur with it. yet.
one day i will i guess.

recently i have been hearing about men (including the one mentioned above) who are leaders, ministry leaders, and ppl who have that heart factor praying that we come to the point of helplessness. so we can go on our knees.
will that time come sooner or later?
will that time force me to go on my knees?
or just go on my fees.

can there be such a thing as forgetting HOW to pray?
or is it juz a hardening of the heart factor and a choice not to be disciplined in the things which once enthralled our young junior faith.

things are only beginning.
the very things that inspired, like student ministry, is beginning to look daunting.
life issues are at the worse, and friendships have never been so strained.
do we sacrifice friendships that were built over so long over differences in leadership style?
i am sorry brother. it is an unfortunate turn of events, and a pitiful way things are unfolding after 9years.

i am sorry.

with all the forces of life pulling with one kind of relationship pulling over another kind. staying firm in brotherhood becomes a chore.
maybe leaders see differently. seeing how two certain cgls and their acgls becoming so jaded with all the indefinite changes and neverending transitions.

man. its saddening stuff man.
and the contrast is especially greater when i grew in a ministry that has challenged my view of christian ministry itself.
in fact if you look at Christ in the bible hor, the way He does stuff, it is really a kind of thing which challenges worldviews.

and i guess that is what we should live and love as. to challenge ourselves and those close to us and those in our influence. to challenge existing worldviews that may not be the fullest.

and herein comes another question. what if i cant lead as those who inspired and mentored me? i realise some of my greatest mentors aren't those who sit down with me and do a million page bs, but those whose lives are the million pages if the lifelong bs they had done and then lived out.

and that is true belief.
"Believe comes with courage, courage comes with passion, passion comes with conviction and conviction comes with a relationship." ~fuji

hope to come to that point where it becomes real..

it is discouraging to see more and more of my friends i grew up in youth, who lead bs and lead worship now leading a life that is aimless and confused of the gospel. man. why should i be surprised? even those who once had theo studies are now more concerned about fame or holidays.

do we need 20 years to turn nominal?
no it juz happens in an instant. it happens in the instant when we have chosen the way that is not The way.

so i guess lets not look at this person or that, and see that his "youthful passion sure will bring him far", or go like "wah that girl staffworker so solid one". you'll never know. the most ok one can be the most distant one.

so is it a duty when u see a brother and/or sister who seems to be fine, but something tells u some Something is eroding away. that zest, that love, that heart factor is losing it. so is it our duty if your good friend is headed for a life that is more concerned with enjoying rather than giving?
i would want my friends to do so when the day comes for me when i forget my Lord. i would want my friends to press on and perservere in the day when i refuse to hear, refuse to step out of my double lifestyle or a lipservice devo.
will i be that friend?

walk with Jesus daily.
God help us to.

"serve with the heart of a king, rule with the heart of a servant." [another random post]

got this quote from a certain significant someone who got it from a certain significant figure in the judiciary who is also a significant figure in the worship ministry :)

i have no idea and no depth of what it actually means nor concur with it. yet.
one day i will i guess.

recently i have been hearing about men (including the one mentioned above) who are leaders, ministry leaders, and ppl who have that heart factor praying that we come to the point of helplessness. so we can go on our knees.
will that time come sooner or later?
will that time force me to go on my knees?
or just go on my fees.

can there be such a thing as forgetting HOW to pray?
or is it juz a hardening of the heart factor and a choice not to be disciplined in the things which once enthralled our young junior faith.

things are only beginning.
the very things that inspired, like student ministry, is beginning to look daunting.
life issues are at the worse, and friendships have never been so strained.
do we sacrifice friendships that were built over so long over differences in leadership style?
i am sorry brother. it is an unfortunate turn of events, and a pitiful way things are unfolding after 9years.

i am sorry.

with all the forces of life pulling with one kind of relationship pulling over another kind. staying firm in brotherhood becomes a chore.
maybe leaders see differently. seeing how two certain cgls and their acgls becoming so jaded with all the indefinite changes and neverending transitions.

man. its saddening stuff man.
and the contrast is especially greater when i grew in a ministry that has challenged my view of christian ministry itself.
in fact if you look at Christ in the bible hor, the way He does stuff, it is really a kind of thing which challenges worldviews.

and i guess that is what we should live and love as. to challenge ourselves and those close to us and those in our influence. to challenge existing worldviews that may not be the fullest.

and herein comes another question. what if i cant lead as those who inspired and mentored me? i realise some of my greatest mentors aren't those who sit down with me and do a million page bs, but those whose lives are the million pages if the lifelong bs they had done and then lived out.

and that is true belief.
"Believe comes with courage, courage comes with passion, passion comes with conviction and conviction comes with a relationship." ~fuji

hope to come to that point where it becomes real..

it is discouraging to see more and more of my friends i grew up in youth, who lead bs and lead worship now leading a life that is aimless and confused of the gospel. man. why should i be surprised? even those who once had theo studies are now more concerned about fame or holidays.

do we need 20 years to turn nominal?
no it juz happens in an instant. it happens in the instant when we have chosen the way that is not The way.

so i guess lets not look at this person or that, and see that his "youthful passion sure will bring him far", or go like "wah that girl staffworker so solid one". you'll never know. the most ok one can be the most distant one.

so is it a duty when u see a brother and/or sister who seems to be fine, but something tells u some Something is eroding away. that zest, that love, that heart factor is losing it. so is it our duty if your good friend is headed for a life that is more concerned with enjoying rather than giving?
i would want my friends to do so when the day comes for me when i forget my Lord. i would want my friends to press on and perservere in the day when i refuse to hear, refuse to step out of my double lifestyle or a lipservice devo.
will i be that friend?

walk with Jesus daily.
God help us to.

nic, you are such a...

...loser.

Wake up your idea. Stop living in your own impractical world. You are such an ass.

God help. Help me desire and do change. Not just want you to help.

This loser wants to blog this for posterity, hoping it'll be a defining period.

booking in..

after 2 straight days of being with brothers and sisters of the same mind, being rejuvinated of the exciting end goal of ministry, and seeing where things begin to fit,
Is really sian.

God, where do i fit now? Grant us this servant heart, and a passion of Your child knowing His father's will.

Serving in this is exciting. And it is getting even more so.
Time for ego to be thrown out.
Time for insecurities to be crossed.
Time to stop being distant and risk being involved with people :)

2010 has been an enormously impactful year. Things are moving on. And i thank You Lord!

Two books to recommend..
-the true vine by andrew murray.
Still reading. A devotional of john 15. To abide!
-emerging culture by jimmy long.
Haven't read. Haven't got :p
But still recommending! :P haha! Good for leaders, or basically anyone in any ministry with people younger than 30. We need to have great tectonic paradigmic humungous change how we serve cuz of emerging culture.
On 2nd thoughts, not so hard. Cuz we're the emerging culture. Postmodern in cheemer academic terms.
Juz have to forgo certain styles of ministry which is what we are used to.

Esp with ministry involving people. Young people..

Exciting times!
Things are stabilizing..
But yet hor.. Good times and comfort zone times are but training times.. Macham sispec or ocs or some random course people go to go after bmt.
And like life, you realised the training you receive, don't really apply to the real stuff in whatever unit you're in.... Unless of course you're a driver or diver or just damn blur.
Crap. Digressed.
Anyway i was saying.
Good times are training times cuz prolly what comes next is a damn shiong time in life or ministry, and what has been given must be blessed to others, and applied when things screw up in life..

Challenging two days.
Long to see what happens next and what choices happen.

Never been more excited about both ministry and what lies ahead..
Though cost must be paid.

Don't waste your friggin life in the rat race chasing useless qualifications or some high paying but useless job.. Someone wise said that after winning the rat race....

you're still a rat.

for posterity's sake.

my friend is confined in camp as he's punished with sol..
And he told the whole world on fb, to 'shh, leaving camp w no one ard heehee'.

One day this is the kind of stuff to tell your grandkids not to do.

praise God from whom all blessings flow...

Praise God from Whom all blessings flow
Praise Him, all creatures here below
Praise Him above, ye heavenly hosts
Praise Father, Son and Holy Ghost

Let earth and heavenly saints proclaim
The power and might of His great Name
Let us exalt on bended knee
Praise God, the Holy Trinity

Praise God, praise God, praise God, Who saved my soul
Praise God, praise God, praise God from Whom all blessings flow

Praise to the King, His throne transcends
His crown and Kingdom never end
Now and throughout eternity
I'll praise the One Who died for me

Praise God, praise God, praise God, Who saved my soul
Praise God, praise God, praise God from Whom all blessings flow

Praise God, praise God, praise God, Who saved my soul
Praise God, praise God, praise God from Whom all blessings flow

Praise God from Whom all blessings flow
Praise Him, all creatures here below
Praise Him above, ye heavenly hosts
Praise Father, Son and Holy Ghost